Host & VBI channels in St.Louis, MO

[mnkmorgan]

Does anyone know what the Host and VBI channels are in the St. Louis, MO area?
The unit is connected to Charter Cable through their Cable Card.

It was working fine after I uploaded the new firm ware for the digital upgrade,
until a few days ago, now it can't find the Host or the VBI channels.

[mabuttra]

Does anyone know what the Host and VBI channels are in the St. Louis, MO area?

Assuming you are over-the-air...

From here, your host channel (KMOV) would be channel 4 (RF Channel 24). Your VBI channel is just the current channel you are on. When your host channel sets it will most likely show as 0:24-0.

Mark

[mnkmorgan]

Thanks for the info. Mark,
I thought KMOV was probably the one, but my unit can't find it.
I am connected to Charter Cable through their Cable Card, I was getting the VBI on ch. 782 and
Host was ch. 90 until a few days ago, now I get nothing. Chater's support is no help, they can't
even tell me what channel they provide TVGOS data on.
I also have a Terrestial Antenna connected to the unit.
Kent

[Lance in St. Louis]

Yes, I've had this problem in the St. Louis area for about a week now.  I contacted KMOV and got the following update from their Director of Technology - Broadcast Media on Monday, Feb. 15, 2010:

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We have bypassed the TV Guide data encoder as it was causing problems with our signal for a number of viewers.  They were having to rescan their converter boxes several times a day to be able to watch the station.   TV Guide is aware of the problem, which is occurring at a number of TV stations around the country, and is working to come up with a fix.   We will return the TV Guide data to our signal as soon as they correct the problem.
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This gentleman said that Rovi is working on the problem and they hope to have a fix for testing later this week.  If that happens and the testing goes well, they could possibly have the TVGOS data feed turned on again next week.  However, he made no guarantees and it was clear that the TVGOS data is a lower priority than keeping the KMOV signal viewable for their cable users.

Lance

 

[mnkmorgan]

Thanks, Lance
I guess I'll just wait and see.
Sucks that I can't use my DVR though. 
Kent

[mabuttra]

Thanks, Lance
I guess I'll just wait and see.
Sucks that I can't use my DVR though. 
Kent

You can always set manual recordings, unless your clock is off.

Mark

[mnkmorgan]

The clock is off, so no joy.

I was wondering if the local PBS channel 9 is sending the TVGOS data out?

[mabuttra]

The clock is off, so no joy.

I was wondering if the local PBS channel 9 is sending the TVGOS data out?

If there was another source of TVGOS data out there, your DVR would have found it already.

Mark

[Lance in St. Louis]

FYI, KMOV in St. Louis turned the TVGOS data feed back on yesterday afternoon and I've confirmed that one of my two Sony DVR's has program listings again.  Following is the update from the KMOV broadcast engineer from Wednesday, 2/4 at 11:20 CST:

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We put the TV Guide encoder back on line yesterday afternoon.   We are currently watching to make sure it does not cause problems.
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I may have some work to do on my second Sony DVR because I reset the TVGOS, which wiped out the TV listing grid, before I knew there was a problem with the KMOV TVGOS feed.  I have the new version of firmware now, so I'm hopeful that it will start working on its own now that KMOV has turned the TVGOS data back on.

Lance

[mnkmorgan]

Thanks Lance,
I checked my uint Thurs. 2/25/10 and it had the right time so I looked @ the TVGUIDE
and it had populated up through early Sun. morning.

I looked at the 753159852 TVGOS dianostic info. menu and the Host ch. is 1:0-94
which on Charter Cable is the analog KMOV ch.4.

The VBI ch. is 1:0-0 I don't kown what channel that is on Charter Cable.
Thanks again,
Kent

[Lance in St. Louis]

Well, it has been more than a week since KMOV in St. Louis turned their TVGOS feed back on and one of my two DHG-HDD250 DVR’s has not been able to populate its listing grid. When going into the TVGOS on the DVR, the following message is displayed, "There is no data for this screen".

For some background, I upgraded the firm ware on both DVR’s and reset the TVGOS on one of them before I knew that KMOV had turned off their TVGOS feed. A day after KMOV turned the TVGOS feed back on, the DVR that had not been reset had TV guide listings again. KMOV broadcasts the TVGOS feed on OTA channel 4-1 in St. Louis. After using the 753159852 diagnostic screens to compare the DVR’s this evening, I can report the following:

Working DVR / Non-working DVR
------------- / ----------------
Host Channel blank / blank
OTA Lineup 0x7D / 0x0
Last SU 2/15/10 17:02:34 / N/A
Clock Set Chan 0:4-1 / 0:24-0
Failing Clock Chan 0:24-0 / 0:24-0
TVGOS version 08.06.44 / 08.06.44

ATSC slicer info
---------------
Host Chan column All zeros / All zeros
Since Cold & CurrChan column differences
TVG Static # / Incrementing #
TotSections Static # / Incrementing #
Dummy Static # / Incrementing #

Because the non-working DVR has a Clock Set Chan setting that is not the KMOV TVGOS channel, I’m wondering if I should reset the TVGOS on that DVR again. This time the KMOV feed would be available and would hopefully be found for the Clock Set Channel and the TVGOS listings. Does this sound like what I should do?

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you,

Lance

[Lance in St. Louis]

Just closing the loop on an earlier issue.  On Saturday afternoon, I did the TVGOS reset from the 9012 menu on my DVR that was not populating its listing grid.  I had previously reset this DVR while KMOV was not broadcasting the TVGOS feed and it was over a week with no listings.

After the reset with KMOV broadcasting TVGOS data, on Sunday the time was correct and by Monday afternoon, the DVR had TV listings again.  The new version of the firmware is really nice.

Thank you,

Lance